Tuesday, July 05, 2005

counter-review: go fish



my illustrious colleague, emily2, has successfully captured how go fish appears in some ways. but i must firmly state my own opinions on it, partially because i disagree strongly with the conclusions she draws.

first, let's be fair to the film go fish: it was made when "lesbian film" meant, roughly, "thelma & louise". in other words, OMIGOD THEY HAVE TEH SEX! and they even are, like, lesbians!

second, as she observed, that time period was not pretty for anyone. if you were around when that film came out, you know what i'm talking about. sure, the main characters aren't hotties, although perhaps i'm fond of a certain bi-leaning slut.

ms troche and co. were interested in presenting the dyke community in which they lived, and things weren't so happy for lesbians back then as they are now. over the last, say, 20 years, things have changed very significantly for queers, and the outness of those characters practically guaranteed their marginalisation. it is fair to say that it seems a very weak film, over-intellectual and pretentious.

but it was an indie, mostly made at film school, back when "indie" meant no one saw your film and it didn't play in but a dozen theatres nationwide.

today, we have the luxury of being "normal" people: you know, listen to top-40, be employed, have families, adopt children, be treated with respect, even have non-exploitative roles in film. at our old house, we had a poster for go fish on our walls for years because we remembered that film with great fondness: how it represented us in a positive light, how it showed two women dating, how it had real people in it, people who weren't angelina jolie. real people.

i viewed go fish again recently. some of its moments are hokey, or seem ridiculous: the drama about one character's bisexuality, the artificial queer-theory speeches, the awkward settings. but there was also that scene that reverberated with me from when i saw it as a youth: when one character, during a moment of sexual tension and blushing flirtatiousness, clips her crush's nails. and i appreciated how much their crowded, dyke-drama, and messy homes resembled my own and how my friends lived - as opposed to, say, the lives of most of the l-word characters, who are the wealthy, enfranchised women of appalling beauty. i mean, fuck: i'm head over heels for pretty much all of them.

but they aren't the dykes i know. i know grouters and tile-setters, students, professors-in-training, account managers, school teachers and barristas. a lot of barristas, actually. and some lawyers and doctors. i don't know anyone in the dyke jet-set crowd, and while i follow the stories of the rich and fabulous LA crowd, don't forget that we didn't get to appreciate shane's comparatively impoverished existence when she had like nine roomies crowded into a four-bedroom. when our tv friends are shown in the morning light, you can see the professional makeup artists have been at work. no one has bad hair days, ugly fashion, or breakouts. that's because it's our vision of the television world, and it's not what go fish cared about.

i guess what i'm saying is that while emily2, i don't disagree with your assessment per se, to dismiss seminal works like go fish because the actors are ugly and the film is outdated seems cruel. there are a lot of people who live like that, even today. being an outsider may be eclipsible for some of us, but not for all of us, particularly those of us who don't or can't pass as beautiful and wealthy women. go fish may be an artefact of its time but it's also a nice counterpoint to the artificial plasticity to the obscenely perfect filmic vision of west hollywood that the l-word shows.

anyway, i just had to say something.

oh, and as for d.e.b.s.? fabulous. loved it. and so romantic...

9 comments:

FM said...

ah i do believe we share some common ground here. to be honest, i found a certain charm to the film and it was definitely groundbreaking at the time - and, the major thing that annoyed me was the jenny-esque narrative, which i found to be extremely distracting. anyway, to get to my point... my girlfriend was like "what IS this?!?!" and frankly, most of the lesbians i know from school would say the same thing. i don't think they would understand it at all.

why? well, they all came out after that pre-21st century "difficult period" ya know? and i guess i did as well. however, the "new crop" simply wouldn't *get* the vibe in that film, and i would hesitate to recommend it to anyone under the age of 25 or anyone who came out after the year 2000.

but yeah, it's just my belief movements, well... "move." you're right; back then, it was like "dude, there are LESBIANS?! omigod!" like, acknowledgement, ya know? now, the trend is towards acceptance, and even assimilation. and so the media image is moving towards that of the more uh... mainstream lesbian - a la l word cast and ellen/portia.

i fully understand why people would cringe. because i admit i did. it sort of stinks, and i was painfully aware that i was cringing and that it was probably wrong, but still, i cringed. i will admit that i was a pretty lost lezzie when i was coming out -- i simply did not see anyone else who looked as boring as i did, and i didn't like the "boi/butch" look. and images like these didn't help the process. had "the l word" or comparable images in the media or news been released earlier, i think that would have alleviated a lot of angst. i.e. "will i have to cut my hair?! will i have to wear baggy pants to fit in?! what do i do?!?!" i think i drove sue (my confidante at the time) up the wall with said histrionics. yeah, i'm glad those days are over.

then again, i'm sure many people cringe when they see "singles" or "reality bites" (like, dude, is that what people thought gen-x was all about?! oh god, turn it off!!! i'm so glad it's 2005!) -- even while a wave of nostalgia washes over them.

remember, the same people made this film as "the l word." they produced this film (which was snapped up by MGM i think) when they were in their 20's; now they are ten years older. it's interesting to see how they have evolved.

FM said...

now that we're discussing "the genre" i still think the gold medal goes to "but i'm a cheerleader." and it's still uncannily timely.

i invited an attorney to come to speak at school, and she related a story of the time when she was tossed in the slammer. she was slapped with kidnapping charges, because she failed to disclose the location of a girl who was being forcibly taken to "gay re-education camp" by her parents. and i was like, holy crap... these things really exist! yikes!

Unknown said...

we certainly share a lot of ground. i guess i was a little, like, "dude?" at the last paragraph of your post.

i'm the sensitive sort.

Unknown said...

and yes, but i'm a cheerleader is, in fact, the bombilicious.

kids today, they don't care to label themselves. which is lovely, but makes me feel old. they're, like, homoblind (like colourblind, only to being queer). i'm even part of that wave, but i still seek solidarity with the queer community.

i think it's great that in many places, you can just be queer and date whomever you want without anyone blinking. but i guess i'm not ready to be a Normal, eh.

FM said...

ah yes. i hang around kids and newbies. hee. :)

i sense the same type of sentiment from older queers about the same sex marriage debate. a couple of queer law professors snidely and bluntly said "yeah, if you want to be institutionalized, go ahead" and "i'm quite happy being an outlaw." it's like they want to hold onto their world view; they have comfortably settled into being out and proud yet embracing their "outsider" status.

it's like they grew up thinking the world was one way, and now their world view has slipped from under them. they were used to being on the front lines of queerdom... just by coming out. and i'm sure as a kid they encountered all sorts of awful hardships that "kids" nowadays would be less likely to encounter.

nowadays, it's like, *pop!* i'm out. no big deal. and i think that's just weird to them. and deep down inside they wish we understood that in part, it was due to the bravery of people like them - forcing people to recognize that, yes, queers exist - that we even have the luxury of even *thinking about* being normal. they never had the chance.

i can understand that, but it's like, "hey, knock knock, we're past the acknowledgement stage." now, to be "progressive" is to work towards being able to walk among everyone else in society without anyone blinking, to fight the "jim crow"-esque domestic relations laws (and we're winning, despite all the bad news), to be able to adopt and form boring-ass families, etc. it's like being "progressive" is simply attempting to be allowed to share in the trappings of mainstream society, which speaks volumes about how far back we were in the 70's, the 80's and even the 90's.

dispelling stereotypes is VERY important, because the majority of the votes come from non-consmopolitan areas. my gf's mom, when she came out a couple of weeks ago asked "hey, so does she look like a man?" "can she get a real job?" among other things. when she described that i was a tiny long-haired asian girl with a law degree who went to hahvahd, that killed one stereotype right there. then it was onto another stereotype: "well, if she's a harvard asian type, her parents probably disowned her." my gf was like, "um, no. i met them. they're okay with everything." two stereotypes down.

anyway, now it's making middle america feel comfortable with the idea of queers walking amongst them, ya know? and that can only be done by killing stereotypes: bringing home your "normal" girlfriend/boyfriend to nebraska (something an ex of mine did a couple of months ago -- and it went over surprisingly well), etc. and of course, showing mainstream images of queers on television and on screen.

the era of "okay, queers exist. as long as they keep to themselves, it's cool" is coming to a close. now we're coming to yer living room!

now, sure, the queers that choose to be more "different" might gripe and feel like they are being pushed to the background, but i have two things to say about this. one, the queers that are "mainstream" in every other way were "invisible" for a very long time (especially lesbians), and it's nice to see them bubbling up to the limelight. and secondly, even if mainstream america accepts only the "normal" queers -- that's okay, as long as they vote. if legal protections are extended to gays and lesbians, ALL gays and lesbians benefit. and then the ones who stick out will be less likely to be harassed, and if they are, they will be more able to defend themselves.

it's a win-win situation.

FM said...

oh and duh... the gender disparity exists in the queer world too. the mens seem to be living the good life and looking sharp. however, the girls can be polished, well-heeled and upwardly mobile too, and frankly, there needs to be more images like that. and more of that pressed upon people's psyches in "real life" too.

i'm reminded of the time when this flaming gay man was shocked to discover that over half of the women at my birthday party were lesbians. "but you guys... you guys... don't look like lesbians. you guys have style! and you guys are cute and chill!" he said.

i mean, what kind of #%@#$@@ is that?!?!?! are we supposed to be frumpy, ugly and angry/angsty? i know it was supposed to be a compliment, but still... it was like @#$@@#% like, saying... "hey black person, you are really articulate!" gimme a break!

interesting when the cluelessness come from our brothaz, ya know.

oh and if you want to see some anti-feminine lesbian crap, just read craigslist from time to time. occasionally, many of the girls who look "feminine" aren't seen as "queer enough." like, hello? "queer" is all in the internal compass, how much you want pussy; how you present yourself is secondary. end of story. i was given crap a while back by the bouncer at meow mix. "do you know what kind of place this is?" yeah, i know, twit. now stamp my hand! (meow mix closed by the way)

gah! i have way too much to say about this topic, so i'll just stop here. thank god we've moved into 2005!

laura k said...

Best girls-falling-in-love story ever: Show Me Love. ("Fucking Amal" in the original Swedish.) Best young people falling in love movie, period.

Most over-rated girls-falling-in-love story: Better Than Chocolate. Despite it being Canadian, it's just not very good.

Interesting discussion here. Just throwing in some random movie news for your viewing pleasure.

Unknown said...

dood, i so own fucking åmal.

i totally agree. best. damn. girls. movie. ever.

laura k said...

Wow, you even got the little circle thingy on top of the A. Very cool.